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- icons mainly
- texttips mainly
- 1. page-example, columns=show - English example
- 2. columns=hide - Greek example
- 3. notes, petitions
Trials of vector-2022 specifically for wiktionaries (cf#notes): Things missing (2023.11.) from vector-2022 (it has improved since last year) but wiktionaries are different from wikipedias:
- interwiki.languages.wiktionaries, direct click to visible main interwikis: we visit other wiktionaries very often, en, fr & definately the mother language.
- Allow styles of
__TOC__
- Allow horizontal limit2 at extreme ToCs - we need to know the number of language-sections: wikt:en:A with 230 language sections (rare) but not so rare: wikt:en:te, etc.
- Allow styles to compare parallel subsections like this test (crucial comparison for language phases: Modern-Medieval-Ancient)
- or as this Chinese wikt wikt:zh:A horizontal.subsections
- Allow placing of TOC left at lots of Appendices e.g. for ancient nouns
icons mainly Top 3 lines sticky
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lemma title | This is my Username | ||||
↓ Page | Style V22 CLASS MB Ti ↓ Page | |||||
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Search | en fr de el ... 26 languages |
texttips mainly Top 3 lines sticky
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lemma title | This is my Username Talk Watchlist Contributions Logout | ||||
↓ Page Discussions Citations | Style V22 CLASS MB Ti ↓ Page Edit History Watch Editor's tools | |||||
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Search | en fr de el ... 26 languages |
page-example, columns=show, both icons+texttips, Top 3 lines sticky
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lemma title | This is my Username Talk Watchlist Contributions Logout | ||||
↓ Page Discussions Citations | Style V22 CLASS MB Ti ↓ Page Edit History Watch Editor's tools | |||||
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Search | en fr de el ... 26 languages |
Menu [hide] Main Page
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Ancient Greek επεξεργασίαPronunciation επεξεργασία
Etymology επεξεργασίαThis is text. Verb επεξεργασίαPAGENAME, headline comments
Derived terms επεξεργασία
See also επεξεργασία
Sources επεξεργασία
Modern Greek επεξεργασίαPronunciation επεξεργασία
Etymology επεξεργασία
Verb επεξεργασία
Synonyms επεξεργασία
Related terms επεξεργασία
See also επεξεργασίαtest References επεξεργασία
Sources επεξεργασία
Categories: Ancient Greek language | Ancient Greek verbs | Modern Greek language | Modern Greek verbs | etc |
Editor's tools [Hide] Upload file optional right column
also serving to shorten the bodytext. interwikis
probably here too: withTooltips af Afrikaans |
page-example, columns=hide, a real sample for Greek wikt:el:βασίλισσα with test.sticky.TOC.3colums
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τίτλος λήμματος | This is my Username Συζήτηση Λίστα παρακολούθησης Συνεισφορές Αποσύνδεση | ||||
↓ Σελίδα Σχόλια Παραθέματα | Στιλ V22 CLASS MB Ti ↓ Σελίδα Επεξεργασία Ιστορικό Παρακολουθώ Εργαλεία συντάκτη | |||||
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Αναζήτηση | en fr de el ... 26 γλώσσες |
Notes
Structure: top 3 lines=sticky - left=hide/show & drag - bodytext - (right col hide/show & drag)
- The top 3 lines remain intact as 'sticky'. Nothing moves around.
- The columns, also serve to adjust bodytext width as the user wishes with drag.
Material:
- Introducing the domain and the page, standard links (top)
- Menu for user (top & dropdown)
- Menu for interwiki.domains: choices must be visible, at least basic ones +dropdown (top) -perhaps all visible vertically at right.col?
- Menus concerning THIS page (left)
- Menus concerning this domain & editors (top dropdown) - right.col?
Trivial things
- Avoid the words [Hide/Show] at menus (for some languages, words are too long). Do + / -
- Discussions-Συζήτηση of lemma. make it 'Comments' (differentiate from Talk/Συζήτηση -in most languages the term is the same for both 'talk' and 'discussion', make sure people understand that THEY can comment here).
- The English titles Entry and Read do the same thing. Should have the same name too?
- Can the icons be a bit greyish, not too aggressive black.
- The old wiktionary logo is fine at large size, but makes no sense at small size: a new logo for all wiktionaries is needed for both large and small size. Commons:wiktionary logos It cannot contain one letter (of specific script). The wikipedia-globe in a different colour, perhaps...
Wiktionary specific needs:
- interwiki-Languages needed for our constant switching. Especially en, fr and definately the mother language wiktionary of a lemma.
- At the examples, the visible codes (with tooltips) are chosen by the host wiktionary. (by recommending if they exist: e.g. en, fr & the mother.language.wiktionary.
About 'Languages' preferences
- Every lang-indication has 4 options. Sort by: code - endonym - Yourlangugage - Choicelanguage e.g. English
- If Yourlanguage coincides with endonym or Choicelanguage, it is excluded.
- The Wiktrionary logo+link.to.main.pages should also include the name of their language+tooltiptranslations. (When we visit rare wiktionaries, we do not know what language it is; we know neither their code, nor their endonym).
- The Languages dropdown has too much empty space. We do not separate languages by continent. Preferably, sort-preferences x 4 at a vertical tablelist with short lineheights.
- Also: interesting to focus on the 6 United Nations languages, and other 'working' languages.
Appendices, Help pages, etc, need various styles and placings of __TOC__
If not, we will have to write them manually.
- Allow horizontal limit2 at extreme ToCs - we need to know the number of language-sections: wikt:en:A with 230 language sections (rare) but not so rare: wikt:en:te with 85 languages etc.
- Allow styles to compare parallel subsections like this test (crucial comparison for language phases: Modern-Medieval-Ancient)
- or as this Chinese wikt wikt:zh:A horizontal.subsections
- Allow placing of TOC left at lots of Appendices e.g. for ancient nouns
Administrators or, at least, bureaucrats of wiktionaries need licence to add interwikis and modify TOCs.
How?
- Donations for el.wiktionary specifically?
- WMF contractors specialized in wiktionaries are needed to help us with modules and applications e.g. once a month or so.